‘Ghosts of Winterborne’ (P.R.O.B.E.) (Film)

‘GHOSTS OF WINTERBORNE’ (P.R.O.B.E.)

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Return to Winterborne School with Liz Shaw

They still can’t decide whether it’s ‘Winterborne’ or ‘Winterbourne’ on the DVD disc! 😀

I had no idea how interested people would be in my reviews for the ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ series and BBV in general, since I’ve had a couple of requests to review the fourth instalment of ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ called ‘Ghosts of Winterborne’. I’d like to think I can do a review on a BBV production annually on my blog.

‘Ghosts of Winterborne’ is the fourth and final instalment of the ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ series to feature Caroline John as Liz Shaw, which was released in 1996, shortly after ‘Unnatural Selection’. There is ‘When to Die’ released in 2015, but that’s something to talk about another time when we get to it. 😐

This particular ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episode is unique in a couple of ways as well as being the last one to feature Caroline John as Liz Shaw. Firstly, it’s a sequel to the second ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episode called ‘The Devil of Winterborne’. It’s been argued that ‘Ghosts’ is an unnecessary sequel and I guess that’s fair.

At the same time, I don’t mind this being a sequel to ‘Devil’, as it readdresses something we’re already familiar with in ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ and it’s very nice to see familiar actors and characters returning for this instalment. I also found myself gripped into the story, knowing what went on before in ‘Devil’.

In the story, it’s some time since the Devil of Winterborne had been exorcised by P.R.O.B.E. However, when Andrew Powell keeps having nightmares and sees Christian Purcell appearing to him, it’s up to Liz Shaw to find a way to lay the ghost to rest and to thwart the festering evil brewing.

Another aspect about this ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episode being unique is that on VHS, it received an 18 rating as opposed to the 12 rating it’s got on DVD. I was forewarned about this by Unofficial Who and I had to check up on IMDb to confirm it. I find it odd the DVD 12 rating doesn’t reflect the VHS 18 rating.

If ‘The Stranger’ episodes ‘Breach of the Peace’ and ‘Eye of the Beholder’ were given 15 ratings on their DVDs, why couldn’t the ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episodes be rated 15 and 18 on their DVDs as on VHS instead of 12. I mean, does BBV think the ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episodes won’t give 12-year-olds nightmares?

Mind you, I did ready myself for the many shocking gory moments I expected to find in ‘Ghosts’ compared to what I saw in ‘Unnatural Selection’. There is a hanging scene in the episode’s prologue, a gory stabbing scene in the Winterborne School’s attic and Peter Davison gets turned into a husk. 😮

For the rest of the episode, it’s fairly watchable. Also, I don’t think the Peter Davison becoming a husk moment is too bad, as it’s a distance away and it’s not addressed much. This also must be the very first time I’ve heard Caroline John as Liz Shaw utter the ‘s**t’ word in the ‘Doctor Who’ universe.

Unlike ‘The Stranger’ series, ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ is more horror-themed as a series and delves into more supernatural elements. That might be my problem with ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ as a ‘Doctor Who’ spin-off series, especially with it being short-lived and not having enough variety in terms of the stories it can tell. 😦

It also fits considering Mark Gatiss is a horror fan himself, having learnt that fact from checking out the ‘Sherlock’ series. And whilst I appreciate Mark Gatiss being the writer for all of the ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episodes featuring Caroline John as Liz, it’d help to have more variety as opposed to just having horror. 😐

Then again, the murder-mystery aspects of the ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ series are enjoyable to get over the horror aspects that I’m not quite comfortable with. And yes, Mark Gatiss is once again the writer of this ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episode. Surprisingly though, he doesn’t play a character compared to the first three.

I’m shocked to discover that. 😀 Usually, Mark Gatiss would play a character in a production he’s written. How come he didn’t come back to play Georgie the gardener? Where was he in ‘Ghosts’? Did he retire? ‘Ghosts’ is once again directed by Bill Baggs, who’s directed most of the BBV productions.

Caroline John once again is very good as Liz Shaw in the episode. Mind you, the last two ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episodes haven’t really delved much into Liz’s character compared to ‘Devil’, especially as that explored her mourning the loss of her father. There’s a touch of that in this when she visits his grave.

It doesn’t help that the third and fourth ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episodes are in the 40-minute range, with ‘Ghosts’ being 42 minutes compared to ‘Devil’ which was 80 minutes. Then again, Liz is a strong character anyway, and it’s nice to see how she handles this case and returns to Winterborne School.

Louise Jameson returns as Patsy Haggard in the episode and is equally good. Mind you, like Liz, Patsy has a similar problem as her character isn’t given much development compared to her previous appearances. Yes, she does become the new minister within the Ministry of Defence for P.R.O.B.E. 🙂

This is after she replaced Geoffrey Beevers as Brian Rutherford’s character in ‘Unnatural Selection’. But apart from having a few nice scenes with Liz Shaw in the episode, there’s not much to say about Patsy Haggard in this episode. It would’ve been brilliant to have had her be active in the story’s plot.

She could’ve easily fitted in the Lou Bayliss/D.I. Burke/Colonel Ackroyd character that’s sadly missing from this ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episode. In fact, wait a minute! How come Terry Molloy didn’t come back to play to D.I. Burke, having been in ‘Devil’ himself. Even Jonathan Rigby as Cummings didn’t appear in this story. 😦

Peter Davison meanwhile does return in this episode to play Gavin Purcell, the disgraced headmaster who encouraged his nephew Christian to believe that he was the Devil of Winterborne called Isaac Greatorex. It was interesting to see what happened to Gavin, as he’d been put on trial and put in prison.

Liz Shaw ends up in an unholy alliance with Gavin Purcell, as they and Margaret Wyndham sort out the ghostly return of Christian once and for all. It was shocking to hear Peter Davison speaking with a demonic voice once Gavin had been possessed by the ‘devil’. It’s also sad Gavin became decimated.

Reece Shearsmith returns as Andrew Powell in the episode. It was interesting to see the story from his point of view, as he struggled to contend with the nightmares and receive the visits of the ghostly Christian upon his return to school. Andrew is pressured to do the evil work of the ghostly Christian.

It was horrible to see Andrew drinking the blood of his victim Max in the attic. I would’ve thought Andrew might’ve been stronger than that and able to resist, or at least have either Liz or Gavin stop him if that occurred. I’m astonished Andrew was able to get away with murdering Max by the end. 😐

Daniel Matthews (or is it Daniel Harcourt, I don’t know) returns to play Christian, Gavin Purcell’s nephew who was revealed to be the murderer in ‘Devil’ and has now become a ghost in ‘Ghosts’. Daniel Matthews/Harcourt also plays Christian’s ancestor, Isaac Greatorex in the prologue, I believe.

This is when we see Greatorex being hanged through Andrew’s eyes in a nightmare, I think. It’s disturbing when Christian kept appearing to Andrew to make him do his evil work by choosing a victim and drink his blood for him so that he can be resurrected. Why is it that these things happen?

The story features David Hankinson as Max and Nathan Hamlett as Ian, the two schoolboys Andrew meets at his school. Andrew chooses Max out of the two boys so that he can stab him, kill him and drink his blood for Christian. Max is rather reckless and immature when watching him in the episode.

Incidentally, David Hankinson is recognised nowadays for being a Dalek operator in the ‘Doctor Who’ TV series during the Russell T. Davies era. 😀 He also starred in the Big Finish audio ‘Loups-Garoux’ with Peter Davison. David has also attended the ‘Bedford Who Charity Con 6’ back in October 2021.

It was nice to see Charmain May back in ‘P.R.O.B.E.’, albeit playing a different character in this episode. In ‘Ghosts’, she plays Margaret Wyndham, the twin sister of Barbara Taploe who was killed in ‘Devil’. Margaret helps Liz to solve the mystery and is present when Gavin summons ‘the devil’. 😐

The end credits for ‘Ghosts’ list Mrs. Wyndham’s first name as ‘Barbara’ instead of ‘Margaret’ as said on-screen. I wonder if the editor of this episode’s end credits is the same one for ‘Devil’, since Brian Rutherford was played by ‘Patricia Merrick’, not ‘Geoffrey Beevers’, according to ‘Devil’s end credits. 😀

There’s also Alan Nicholas as the librarian in the episode. ‘Ghosts of Winterborne’ concludes with Liz and Andrew sitting together and he shares what will happen in his future at Winterborne School. Liz offers Andrew her pipe to which he takes, though he coughs quite badly from it, which I found amusing to watch. 😀

The DVD special features include ‘Stranger Than Fiction III – Part Two’, which contains behind-the-scenes cast and crew interviews focusing on the making of many BBV productions like ‘The Stranger’ series and the ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ series. It was insightful to hear the actors talking about acting in general. 🙂

‘Ghosts of Winterborne’, in my opinion, isn’t as good as ‘The Devil of Winterborne’. I found it better than ‘Unnatural Selection’ and I found it quite compelling to watch, but I think it would’ve benefited greatly in being an 80-minute episode instead of a 42-minute episode to make it more worthwhile.

Caroline John continues to be excellent as Liz Shaw in these ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episodes and it’s always a delight to see actors like Peter Davison, Louise Jameson, Reece Shearsmith and Chairman May make an appearance in these productions. ‘Ghosts’ isn’t a necessary sequel to ‘Devil’, but I find it good enough.

As for the ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ series overall in featuring Caroline John as Liz Shaw, I think it’s okay. I didn’t enjoy it as much as I enjoyed ‘The Stranger’ series by BBV with Colin Baker and it’s a shame it’s not more than four episodes. But from what I’ve seen, I found this a fascinating ‘Doctor Who’ spin-off series.

It’s surreal that Caroline John did just four ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episodes, matching to the four ‘Doctor Who’ stories she did with Jon Pertwee in the classic TV series in 1970. I wonder why she didn’t do more. Despite this, it’s been nice to check out how Liz Shaw fared out as a character after her U.N.I.T. days.

There is one more ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episode to check out with Liz Shaw, but it’s very sad that Caroline John isn’t in it. 😦

‘Ghosts of Winterborne’ (P.R.O.B.E.) rating – 7.5/10


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8 thoughts on “‘Ghosts of Winterborne’ (P.R.O.B.E.) (Film)

  1. scifimike70's avatarscifimike70

    P.R.O.B.E. was a great way for Caroline to find the full fruition as Liz Shaw that she couldn’t have in the classic Doctor Who, as with several companions thanks to several spinoff projects that began in the Wilderness Years and continued into Big Finish. It will be interesting to see how Hazel Burrows can honor the role in When To Die. Thanks, Tim, for all your P.R.O.B.E. reviews.

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    1. Tim Bradley's avatarTim Bradley Post author

      Hi scifimike,

      Glad you enjoyed my reviews on the ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ episodes. The ‘P.R.O.B.E.’ series won’t be the same without Caroline John as Liz Shaw and I’m not sure how ‘When to Die’ will hold up with Hazel Burrows playing the character. Hopefully, I’ll have an open mind when it comes to checking out that episode.

      Many thanks for your comments.

      Tim 🙂

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  2. JCc's avatarJCc

    The rating would have been as BBV would have resubmitted the title to the BBFC for the re-release. BBV would have not chosen the rating but the BBFC would have. If no changes had been made to the feature since their submission for the original VHS release then I don’t think they would have had to do it, but I suspect they did specifically as they suspected it was unlikely to still get an 18 (BBFC are much more accepting of things compared to the early days of the rating system). A lower rating gives you a wider possible audience. Example: The Terminator was originally rated 18. It was resubmitted a few times and then finally in the early 00s was reclassified as a 15 with no cuts. BBV were likely expecting a reclassification as a 15 and may have been surprised/delighted it was reclassified as a 12.

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    1. Tim Bradley's avatarTim Bradley Post author

      Hi JCc,

      Thanks for sharing your insight into this regarding the 18 rating being submitted by BBV and decided upon by BBFC. I find it surprising that the 1989 ‘Batman’ film gets a 15 rating when it could have easily gotten a 12 rating, as I don’t think it’s as graphically violent compared to other 15/R-rated superhero films like the ‘Deadpool’ movies. Also, the ‘Venom’ films could be 12-rated instead of 15-rated, despite having scary imagery of Venom as a character.

      Many thanks,

      Tim 🙂

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      1. scifimike70's avatarscifimike70

        Given the individual differences of when someone in childhood may be ready for the specifically violent aspects of entertainment, certainly for sci-fi and horror, I was able enough to appreciate being able to see such films at home (edited for TV or not) for which Night Of The Living Dead, Alien and especially The Thing had prepared me for quite a bit early on. Even for all the turbulent issues in our entertainment world, this may be a flexible issue. Speaking as someone who in my 50s now has a fresher look back on several movies and TV shows in retrospect, I’m grateful for the wisdom that influences which Whoniverse stories to introduce to my nephew. With Torchwood, I settled for just getting him Miracle Day on DVD.

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      2. Tim Bradley's avatarTim Bradley Post author

        Hi scifimike,

        Yes, it is fair that the younger generation would be more frightened of the scary imagery in certain films like 1989 ‘Batman’ and the ‘Venom’ films compared to an older audience. It depends on how you look at it. Also, the adult content featured in some films are bound to be unsuitable for younger audiences, especially when they’re likely to not be able to process and understand it quickly compared to grown-ups, so it’s just as well as the advisory certificates are there to prevent children from watching unsuitable content. I have checked out more grown-up material rather late in the game, even after I passed the ages of 15 or 18. It’s not something I’d usually go for, but I would mentally prepare myself before checking out a 15 or 18-rated film. I know a ‘Deadpool’ is going to be foul-mouthed because I’ve mentally prepared myself for the experience whereas perhaps a very young person wouldn’t be able to do that and are advised not to check it out until they’re older.

        Regarding ‘Torchwood’, I’m very behind on sharing more reviews on the TV series and I haven’t listened to any of the Big Finish audios. The BBC radio audios, yes, but not Big Finish. I had in mind to start and share reviews on Series 1 of ‘Torchwood’ in 2021, but held back sadly due to John Barrowman’s fall from grace. Hopefully, I’ll get back on track with sharing more ‘Torchwood’ reviews soon when I get a chance to and when I have the mindset and stomach for it. I’ve also not seen much of ‘Miracle Day’ on DVD. I saw the first episode in 2011, but didn’t keep up since then. Mainly it’s because the series put me off with Owen and Toshiko dying in Series 2 and Ianto dying in Series 3 (‘Children of Earth’) that I was getting fed up with the deaths and I didn’t want to see Series 4 end with another death of someone, which I think did happen in ‘Miracle Day’, but I’ve yet to see the season to find out.

        Many thanks,

        Tim 🙂

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      3. scifimike70's avatarscifimike70

        After Children Of Earth, the Torchwood area would inevitably have a daunting task of trying to keep a particularly good audience. Whether or not Miracle Day sufficiently achieved that may be debatable. But it did a specific upbeat quality to it compared to the previous season and I found that appealing enough.

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      4. Tim Bradley's avatarTim Bradley Post author

        Hi scifimike,

        As far as I’m concerned, Series 2 was the best season out of ‘Torchwood’ and I wish the series maintained the episode count to 13 for audiences to enjoy rather than reverting Series 3 and 4 to being single multi-part stories as ‘Children of Earth’ and ‘Miracle Day’. I’ve not heard the Series 5 and 6 Big Finish audio seasons of ‘Torchwood’ to compare how they to ‘Children of Earth’ and ‘Miracle Day’ on TV.
        It would have been interesting to see Jack, Gwen and Ianto working as a trio on multiple missions following Owen and Tosh’s deaths, and maybe they could have had some new characters joining them, whether it would have been Martha and Mickey or not.

        Best wishes,

        Tim 🙂

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